Mastinos - Boersos - Black Boerboels
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Question: "How much does a Boerboel from Alpine Lion Boerboels cost?"
Answer: **ATTN** READ THIS!!:
1) How much do you think a security system that's never faulty, that you can take with you anywhere, that lasts 12 years, that can monitor a home, acreage, livestock, and a family with ease, and be an absolute joy to be around would cost you for the same amount of time? That's right, . . . it doesn't exist -- and if it did, it would cost you upwards of $250,000/year for a security system and mobile bodyguards (and they would never be as vigilant, fun, or trustworthy as your boerboel). Food for thought while you address your priorities, your budget, and your reasons for wanting (or needing) an apex protection animal.
4) We ask for $1000.00 NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT to secure a puppy or adult dog. Litters deemed "special" require a $2000.00 non-refundable deposit. The remaining balance is due when your puppy is 6 weeks of age. If we have not made payment arrangements by 6 weeks of age then the puppy will be offered to the next person on our list. You will then be placed back on our list for a future puppy. Our puppies are reserved in the order we take deposits. The South African Boerboel can be very difficult to breed and sometimes the breedings do not take . . . we will hold your deposit until the next time we breed the female you are interested in or offer you a puppy from another breeding. Again, the deposit is NON-REFUNDABLE should you decide to cancel.
~ Alpine Lion boerboels LLC ~
~ Many Blessings to you and yours ~
The prices vary and do NOT include shipping:
Breeding/Show Quality: $3,500
Pick of the Litter: (Breeding/Show Quality):
Special Litter (usually rare color or limited availability mating):
$4,500 for "pick of litter" -- $4,000 for "breeding quality"
Africa Mastinos: ~ $3,500 (for "picks")
*We will also consider trades of equal value*
Question: "Why do Alpine Lion Boerboels cost so much?"
Answer: They don't!! -- Alpine Lion Boerboels cost as much (or less considering the shipping costs for importing World Class South African breeding stock) as any sought after rare breed (or Mastiff breed) like the Cane Corso, Tosa Inu, Dosa Inu ($10,000), Presa Canario, Neopolitan Mastiff ($3500 min),Dogue de Bourdoux (Turner and Hooch), Bullmastiff, or even the Old English Bulldog or certain reputable Rottweiler breeders. In the dog world you get what you pay for and the Alpine Lion Boerboel is the zenith of the molloser world.
Question: "What are my guarantees?"
Answer: Lets put it this way, At Alpine Lion Boerboels we are a family. We want nothing less than our customers to have the spectacular, athletic, healthy, chisled, loyal, confident, head-turning, family member boerboel of their dreams for the next 12-15 years. Anything short of that we will work with you like you adopted a son or daughter that had a serious complication. Basically any serious unavoidable accident, disease, or issue (like placement problems) will be handled with grace, integrity, and tact. So, don't worry about silly guarantees like "If he walks like a snake ~ I'll give you another dog that walks like a snake for free". At Alpine Lion Boerboels we stand behind what we produce, our family members, and our integrity with how any disappointments are handled. We can provide YEARS of references and illustrations of how we do business and the quality of our dogs. Example: we sold a beautiful little girl and her family a beautiful little girl boerboel to compliment her, be her playmate and protector, and grow up together. While taking the little puppy to get her final round of shots at 3 months old a tragic accident took place killing the puppy (and subsequently breaking the little girl and her families hearts). I found this out while doing my 4 month check-up on the puppies (the family being too devastated to speak with us). Let's just say that this was not our problem, responsibility, or in anyway connected to Alpine Lion. Let us also just say that we would like to report that, that little girl and her family had a new little girl puppy within 2 months free of charge to hopefully replace (and help heal her heart) the one she lost so tragically. This was done simply because when we sell you a dog we have a vision for you and your animal as do you ~ it is shared, honored, and respected here at Alpine Lion Boerboels --That is our guarantee and it is the best in this business!! If that is not good enough I will write in to your contract whatever IS good enough (I stand by the dogs 100%).
It is what we aim to produce and we're good at what we do. We are a small family business and we like to sell to families. We are not a puppy mill (whatever that is). All our puppies are vet checked prior to being placed into their new homes, and up to date on all vaccinations and deworming (micro-chip if requested). All of our puppies undergo a working dog evaluation at 6 weeks old to aid the new owner in obtaining the correct puppy regarding confidence, stability, people(pack) oriented, prey drive, aggressiveness, and dominance. We assist you with training tips, nutritional guidelines (including homeopathic knowledge and supplements), and can answer ANY question regarding this or almost any other breed (WE LOVE DOGS!).
Alpine Lion's Philosophy on Hip "Guarantees":
*We Will Work With You With Any And All Concerns You May Have Regarding Health Issues For The Lifetime Of Your Alpine Lion Boerboel *
Many breeders will offer a "hip guarantee" on a puppy which specifies that the pup’s hips will be "good" until the pup is 24 or 25 months old (some breeders guarantee it beyond that time). What this means is that a buyer can wait until the puppy is 24 months old, send a radiograph of the puppy’s hips to OFA and if they clear as "normal", then they have met the guarantee. If the puppy’s hips do not clear as Excellent, Good or Fair by the OFA (which are the three "normal hip conformation ratings"), then they do something to "make good" on the puppy.
In the event of a puppy not passing an OFA evaluation for hip conformation, some breeders will refund some or all of the purchase price. Some will exchange the puppy with another puppy from a future litter, the timing of which is sometimes specified, and other times not specified. I have seen timelines of "within two years" and "next available" as descriptions of when the new puppy will be given to the buyer. Not all breeders allow the "bum" puppy to remain with the buyer, instead demanding a return of the puppy prior to either money or a new puppy in exchange. However, many breeders do allow the buyer to retain their first puppy so long as it is spayed or neutered.
Some breeders have conditions under which the "guarantee" will not be met. I have seen breeders specify that the puppy must be fed a "BARF or raw food" diet or define a specific brand of dog food or the hip guarantee won’t be honored. Some breeders state that the dog must be provided specific vitamin or mineral supplements or the guarantee is voided. Some require that the puppy’s exercise be limited (including no jumping or excessive running) until it is 12 to 18 months old or the guarantee won’t be honored. They are all fairly difficult/impossible to document.
In essence, most of these arrangements are not a true guarantee, in my opinion, that the puppy one purchases has "good" hips. To me, it is more like a warantee that recognizes a defective puppy could be produced but a replacement of some sort will be offered. That, of course, assumes the buyer wants another puppy from the same breeder!
Using the word "guarantee" suggests that there is significant assurance of an outcome or condition regarding the quality or durability of a product or service.The problem I have with a "hip guarantee" in Boerboels is that I cannot guarantee the condition of any one puppy’s hip conformation because I do not have sufficient data to do so. Unlike many breeders, however, I do not place responsibility for the final hip outcome on the puppy buyer (and demand they feed a special food to maintain the guarantee). I agree with the OFA that canine hip dysplasia is a heritable condition. So, nutritional intervention probably won’t change the puppy’s hip conformation status.
I feel that exercise should be limited in puppies for complete skeletal growth concerns, not to alter the outcome of a hip radiograph. Excessive exercise can have a negative impact on any joint if it is overused when the pup’s growth plates have not yet fused. But,it won’t cause canine HD in a dog that inherited the condition. The genes do that. However,there are a few experts that suggest trauma at or around birth which causes the puppy's hips to be shifted in the socket, may, in fact, be partially to blame for the development of HD - and genetics does not play a role in those cases. This is true in human infants, as well.
Fortunately, South African Boerboel lines come with generations of hip clearance data. Boerboel breeders both in the USA and abroad have placed a huge emphasis on examining hip conformation and selecting against the condition by eliminating individuals with canine HD from the breeding pool. One can identify hip clearance data back several decades in the South African Boerboel bloodlines.
In fact, the concept of "guaranteeing" a living animal is somewhat confusing, since each animal is so unique and the nurturing, maintenance and training that a buyer provides the puppy can and does affect the overall health and condition of the animal. Many diseases are described to have a predisposition to stress, for example. A puppy that is provided a low stress lifestyle may actually escape its genetic potential to develop a variety of diseases that its sibling, raised in a stressful realm, may not be able to avoid. This is true in humans, as well as dogs. However, diseases with genetic markers or those that can be 100% ruled out by a specialist are easy to guarantee against.
At first glance it may appear that I am not providing the same level of support to a puppy buyer that many other breeders do. But, in the long run, a guarantee that doesn’t truly guarantee anything, doesn’t provide any assurance, often leads the buyer to a greater heartbreak if or when the puppy presents with a disease. I feel that a buyer that has made an educated and informed purchase decision will be happier in the end. If a puppy doesn’t pass an OFA screen at 24 months, getting money back isn’t going to fix anything, getting a new puppy may be a poor option for families that have limited space or who simply always wanted just one dog, and perhaps the buyer would not want a puppy from the same breeder at that time. And, for some, the thought of giving back their devoted companion and best friend to gain access to the "reimbursement" isn’t an option, nor should it be.
So, with conditions that one cannot truly guarantee, I feel it is best to provide all of the data I can offer with regards to the parents of the puppies. Then, the buyer can decide for herself whether she wants to take the risk and purchase a puppy from me.
It’s important to remember that a puppy is not just its hip clearances. A puppy is a combination of its parents’ pedigrees that includes temperament, working ability and overall structure. It is also a result of early upbringing and socialization. Nature and nurture play a role in the dog that you will call your own. Quality breeders do what they can to control for natural (genetic) contributions to the dog’s overall health and well being. Quality breeders also spend dozens of hours with every litter making certain that they are highly socialized and prepared for their lives with their new families. And, quality breeders know each puppy well enough to help place each puppy with the right individual or family. There after, the nurturing that is offered by the puppy buyers will continue to influence the puppy’s personality and comfort in its new home and in society.
I feel it is better to explain that to puppy buyers so that they can make an informed decision and recognize the risk rather than provide a guarantee that I cannot control.This line of dogs, by the way, has many imported "Show line" Boerboels, all of which have hip clearances in their foreign pedigrees that can be traced in the OFA (Penn-hip) database. When one considers that canine HD can crop up in a line of dogs that has so much evidence of individuals that are rated as "normal" by the OFA,it seems to me an impossible claim. For that reason, I do not "guarantee" my puppies won’t develop canine HD because, truly, it’s impossible for me to make that claim. I prefer to be forthright with the information and allow a buyer to make an informed decision rather than deceive someone into thinking that there is not risk at all that their puppy could develop canine HD.
Question: "How much is shipping?"
Answer: This all depends, however it is your cost (crate and freight!). If you have access to a better deal than us then by all means we will go with your people, as long as the dogs will be safe and well cared for. Most folks choose Delta and seem to come in somewhere around $225.00 approx for their flights in Continental US.
BOERBOELS AND THE FAMILY
Question: "Are Boerboels safe around Children?"
Answer: My family and I have raised bullmastiffs for 15 years. The bullmastiff is excellent around children, and my Boerboels surpass them in every regard. The Boerboel has been historically bred to protect it's children (even offering up their own life if necessary). Remember these dogs are an African Frontiersman's dog and we all know what is on Africa's frontier!! My Boerboels never let my children wander unguarded--ever!! (it is Awesome!!). I have children ages 3, 5, and 10 (see pictures) and I have never once felt nervous in regards to my boerboels, in fact quite the contrary I feel that they are in good hands. *Note* Any large dog (especially a 120 pound puppy!) can abruptly turn and send a toddler or kid to the ground so I do watch them and give them some coaching as to "child etiquette".
WHY A BOERBOEL?
Question: "Why choose a Boerboel over a Rottweiler, Bullmastiff, or other mollosser?"
(2) Unfortunately the Rottweiler has been over (and unskillfully) bred particularly in the United States.This has led to all sorts of heartbreaking illness and degenerative hip disorders for pets and owners.
(3) The boerboel is (and historically has been) bred selectively. They are rated by certain groups (including the AKC) and only those dogs that excel in body conformation and temperment are usually considered worthy of breeding.
Question: Is "In-Breeding" dangerous, illegal, or immoral?
Answer: Yes it can be, No, and No.
Dogs are not humans and they do not see this as a moral issue. Dogs descend from wolves and all wolf pack members are closely related. True this is ridiculously simplifying the deal, but the stigma associated with dog imbreeding is overblown and having a pure bred dog that is not inbred somewhere down the line (and often) is a scientific impossibility. Please read below for some clarfication (and easy reading) on this matter. Then research pedigrees and take a look for yourself. ~ Blessings!
In-Breeding and other Breeding Methods
One of the most hotly talked about topics with regard to pure-bred dogs is the use of in-breeding. This is a term that is often misused and is extremely misunderstood.
Part of the misunderstandings come from differences in the way the terms are used within the scientific/medical field, and how it is commonly used by breeders. These are the most commonly accepted definitions used by serious dog breeders and will be the definitions used within this article.
In-breeding - This is the breeding of closely related animals. Brother-Sister, Parent-Offspring, ˝ brother - ˝ Sister.
Line-breeding - This is the breeding of animals that share common ancestors but are not closely related. For example the dogs may share a common great-grandparent.
Out-cross - This is generally considered the breeding of animals with no common ancestors within the first 4 or 5 generations.
In-breeding causes genetic diseases - Breeding closely related animals increases the possibility that any bad genes in a line will show up. It does not 'cause' genetic disease.
Out-crossed dogs are healthier - This is only partly true. There is a known phenomenon called Hybrid Vigor. Two animals of unrelated strains breed and the offspring is often bigger and grows faster than it's purebred cousins. This method is often used by farmers in order to get their animals to market sooner. But one of the biggest misconceptions of hybrid vigor is that it applies to all animals of mixed heritage. Hybrid Vigor only applies to the animals that are the direct offspring of the crossing of the unrelated strains. In other words if you continue to breed animals of different strains there generally will not be any additional increase in hybrid vigor. If the unrelated strains share common genes for genetic disorders, hybrid vigor will not over ride the risk of the disorder showing up. Out-crossing can also cause problems if widely divergent physical types are mixed due to differences in growth rates and bone and muscle sizes.
Benefits Of Each Type Of Breeding
By definition, purebred dogs have a smaller gene pool to draw on than mixed breed dogs. That smaller gene pool gives the breed its individual characteristics, such as physical appearance and temperament. It is what makes a Boerboel a Boerboel and a Golden Retriever a Golden Retriever. But there is considerable controversy with regard to whether the gene pools of the modern pure-bred have become too small.
In-breeding is more likely to help "set" or "fix" a particular trait within a breed or a line by narrowing the gene pool to favor those traits. So if a breeder is looking to set a particular desirable feature of their line then in-breeding and choosing the offspring most strongly possessing that trait can be beneficial.
In-breeding can also help identify those bad genes that exist within a line. Dogs possessing the bad genes can be eliminated from a breeding program and carriers also identified.
Intermittent in-breeding within a line or breed is not damaging to the long term health of the animals (the breeding of Dragon and Cuba is a well planned one-time deal to isolate certain favorable traits and then introduce that progeny to a outcross/separate [but compatible physically] bloodline) . However, in-breeding over successive generations can lead to reduced fitness and fertility problems among the offspring, resulting in a phenomena known as In-breeding Depression. It can take many generations to show up depending on the traits involved.
To use this method responsibly a breeder would not want to in-breed on animals with known genetic disorders, temperaments not in keeping with it's given breed, or known serious structural faults, or to in-breed frequently even on healthy-superior specimens.
Thank you for your time to look this over ~ any decision or opinion regarding the purchase of a puppy that is the result of an in-breeding is completely understandable and accepted. Alpine Lion Boerboels holds no position on this matter expect our own, for our own purposes, for our own vision.
In dictionaries you will find the following definition of a Boerboel: a big farm dog of uncertain origins. Thankfully, this is now something of the past.
South Africa's own dog, the Boerboel, is now a full-fledged breed.
Long research has revealed that the ancestry of the Boerboel can be traced as far back as the time of Herodotus and to Tibet, Assiria and Babylon.
In Assiria dogs were used as soldiers, even covered with reinforced material to protect them. When Assurbanipal conquered Egypt. These dogs were also taken along and thus they were spread further into the known world.
Later Alexander the Great was responsible for spreading them to Europe. Apparently in 326bc he received a present 156 of these large dogs who had been specially trained to fight lions and elephants.
Through the ages these dogs developed into two definite strains, the mastiff which was mainly used for protection and as soldiers, and the hound which was used for hunting purposes. Both these dogs were large and strong and typical working dogs, with only slight differences in appearance and build.
It is reputed that all dogs of the western world are descended from these two dog types. About 600 years ago the Europeans started specialized breeding from these two basic dogs and through fine-selection and cross-breeding the different breeds evolved.
Some dogs were bred especially for hunting. Others had to retrieve the prey, guard and herd the livestock and for many other uses they could be put to, but the basis of all these dogs was still the original strong breed of the past.
When Jan Van Riebeeck came to the cape in 1652 he brought his own dog along to protect him and his family in this wild and unknown country.
This dog was known as a "bullenbijter", a large, heavy mastiff-type dog. At this time the original dog had been much diversified and many of the western world countries had its own distinctive, specialized breed of dog.
The settlers who came after Jan Van Riebeeck also brought along their strongest dogs to protect them against all the unknown dangers of this strange land. Thus dogs arrived here from many different countries.
As the pioneers moved further and further inland and settled on remote farms (the groot trek), the dogs were forcibly isolated and a lot of inbreeding took place which had the result that the characteristics of the original Assirian dog started to reappear.
Survival was of the utmost importance and it was here that the hardiness of todays Boerboel was bred into the dog. There was no veterinary surgeon or medicines available for dogs and they had to look out for themselves to a large extent.
During the groot trek the Boerboel had most of the features that it has today and is clearly recognizable from old drawings. In the period after the trek, on the distant farms, the Boerboel interbred further and only the biggest and strongest dogs survived.
His pioneer owners required him to be a friend of the family, a worker, provide protection and also to be a fighter. They could not afford to have a disobedient, moody, finicky, sickly dog they had to be able to rely on him to protect the family, work, kill and fight.
At the turn of the century the characteristics of the old, original dog were clearly visible and the dog was generally known as the "bole".
The years that followed almost brought tragedy to the Boerboel. Urbanization caused cross breeding with anything that could bark and the typical "bole" started to disappear. It was only in the eighties that a serious search started again for the original farm dog.
A few brave people took the initiative and the South African Boerboel Breeders Association was formed. Their main aim was to let the original Boerboel take its rightful place as a uniquely South African dog among the other dog breeds of the world.
A search covering thousands of kilometers followed. Selective breeding started, many disappointments followed, but also immense joys! At last the dog of our forefathers was ready to be registered as a pure breed.
In the meantime the breeders association has grown to over 500 members. They are widely spread throughout South Africa and Namibia. Each year in November they have a big get-together and people from all over converge on Kroonstad and dogs and people all look each other over.
In august 1980 the first countrywide selection tour was undertaken by Jannie Bouwer of Bedford and Lucas Van Der Merwe of Kroonstad. Lucas' wife Anneke went along as secretary. A total of 5500km was covered, 250 dogs were seen and only 72 were selected to be registered. The big dream was taking shape....
The character of the Boerboel:
The Boerboel has been bred to be a stable family companion and protector on the farms and in the home.
A cranky, temperamental dog that stays surly after being reprimanded, is not a Boerboel.
You should purchase a Boerboel for his even character. This was and always should be his main quality.
Your Boerboel should qualify himself as your best friend. He should know what you are thinking, when you feel threatened, he should know when you approve or disapprove of a stranger and share your feeling. He should be able to recognize your fear. Any Boerboel owner should be able to confirm this. These traits should be recognizable from puppyhood. He should, with a growl, be able to tell you: "Im here, always. I will guard you with my life."
If you allow him to attack, he will growl like a lion and fight ferociously without taking his own safety into account.
No wonder Aristotle named the forefathers of these dogs:
Leontix (sons of lions). The Romans also apparently believed that these dogs were obtained by crossing a dog and a lion.
He is definitely a child's friend and playmate. He does not only accept one person as his master, but accepts the protection of the whole family as his duty and is affectionate to all of them.
Many a story has been told about a Boerboel spending hour after hour guarding a little baby in a pram. He feels the whole family belongs to him and his sole purpose is to protect them, with his life, if necessary.
Our forefathers required the following from their Boerboel:
During the day the dog must go to the veld with the children to guard the sheep. There he should catch a hare for them to cook for lunch. He should also protect them against all danger that may threaten them. Tonight he should lie in front of the fire at home and protect the whole family against anything that may be lurking in the dark.
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